I watched the “Nodi Wylin About a Dead Girl” video today and it took nearly an hour to finish listening to it. It was a very painful 12 minutes 29 seconds. The content of the video was just THAT horrible. Almost two months ago when I first started writing about the Steubenville case, I detailed how shocked and upset I was at the tweets that I discovered. Reading those tweets was a walk in the park compared to actually hearing the filth roll off of another human being’s tongue about the events of that night. I cannot imagine if Nodi were my son or my brother, but I can feel compassion and sorrow for his family — unlike the lack of emotion he showed for the victim. I cannot imagine the humiliation and shame that his actions have brought upon his family - who are also innocent victims. They did not ask for this shame. Many lives were forever changed that night by the actions of all of those involved.
I think what most find disturbing is the lack of empathy and compassion from so many of those who witnessed the brutality. What kind of person stands by and watches gleefully as another is violated and publicly humiliated? There are so many questions and it is my hope, and has always been my motivation that those questions somehow be answered.
DISGUSTING!
Not one single ounce of compassion or empathy in this kid.. not one. When speaking of what if it was his daughter and his answer “she’d just be dead.” Unbelievable. I hope for society’s sake this piece of shit is never able to procreate.
Despicable
Every witness to that crime, who failed to call the police while the crime was in progress, should be charged as an accessory to rape, kidnapping, and whatever else! So, why aren’t they?????????????
Good old Sheriff Fred on the radio this morning just shrugging his shoulders over the whole thing and actually saying “some folks are just jealous of Big Red Football”. Wow.
This was really tough to watch. I’m just sickened at these teenaged pigs hamming it up for the camera and each other. “Craig, I’m gonna watch this every day!” I wonder what they’re thinking now that this $hitstorm has been unleashed. You think the star of the video feels any genuine remorse? Yeah, neither do I.
I don’t know what’s going to happen to them legally, but at the **very least** social condemnation should follow them the rest of their lives. These young men know right from wrong but they just don’t seem to care.
They are allowed to behave like this and so they do. Obviously a young man with no morals, ethics or parental guidance. His parents must be real brainless twits as well and should shoulder some of the responsibility for this ugly young man and his upbringing. This is so wrong on so many levels. I would love to hear the response from OSU, as I understand this has been forwarded to the entire administrative body by many different individuals so far. I hope they publish his picture and hand it out so young women on campus and people with sisters are aware of this nasty little sexual predator. Hopefully they will pull his scholarship and boot his ass out. This is not the type of individual that OSU needs representing them on or off the field.
Ever wonder what a dead man walking looks like?
Now you do.
To the parents of the animal in this video: You failed miserably.
Yes, let’s be real here the parents have some fault here somewhere along the line. I see kids like this IRL and in almost every case their parents never disciplined them or taught them responsablity or morals .i.e crappy parenting skills and parents who went off and did their own thing. My own brothers kids are like this(well not as bad..yet) and yes he and his wife are crappy parents.
Looks like someones parents are going to spend their life’s savings to lawyer him up…
A very difficult video to watch… but a must see by those who are still in denial…and have this football team and coach,etc high on a pedestal…. The fact that so many kids are just plain heartless is hard for me to wrap my brain around.. I just keep thinking about the brave girl and her family.. ! I hope she knows there are thousands who understand and have compassion for her. She is not alone.
Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, 636-433-2511. [email protected],
“SNAP (The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests) is the world’s oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims. SNAP was founded in 1988 and has more than 12,000 members. Despite the word priest in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, teachers, Protestant ministers and increasingly, victims who were assaulted in a wide range of institutional settings like orphanages, summer camps, athletic programs, Boy Scouts, etc.”
Absolutely disgusting!!!!!!!
Bring that animal down here to Texas. We’ll give him so Texas justice!
Disgusting… I only started following this story a couple of days a go, I am in the United Kingdom and managed to somehow, stumble on the story on there. He’s a sick boy and needs dealing with accordingly before he goes on and ruins more young and innocent lives. I really feel for the girl who had to go though what they put her through and for her to find out what happened by reading the local newspaper is just bang out of order. Get these douche bags locked up for a long time before they get their claws in to some other, unsuspecting young girl and ruin her life……
What shocked me first was how he was equating the victim to dead people and laughing about “Kayleigh Anthony, Trevon Martin, OJ’s wife, and even JFK. Had he stuck with ficticious movie characters, it may have not been so offensive. Even though it was definitely offensive and hard to swallow watching it. I kept thinking how I wished someone would grab him and smash his ugly face in. It also didn’t help make it easier to watch when he started playing with himself. I honestly thought he was going to whip it out and start masturbating. Any girl who has anything to do with this degenerate needs some serious mental help~!!!!! I hope when an employer does a search of his name, this video remains at the top of the search results page and he NEVER becomes employed. It would also be nice if OSU rescinds his scholarship for lack of morals.
“It also didn’t help make it easier to watch when he started playing with himself. I honestly thought he was going to whip it out and start masturbating.”
Well I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that. He was definitely a little too excited about what he had obviously seen take place. Why do the police believe he wasn’t there? You can hear him say things like “you should have seen it” in the video.
I really hope these kids either get jail time, or someone gets some vigilante justice and beat the shit out of them.
TBH I’m not 100% sure justice will prevail in our corrupt culture. That being said if justice is not served I would die happy knowing the only jobs they get the rest of their lives is “Would you like fries with that?”
Ohio State is as entrenched in the athlete culture as Steubenville. Look what Jim Tressel did - and he was on the sidelines of a game this year and received a stadium full of cheers when his mug was shown on the scoreboard. They aren’t going to do anything with this kid … he fits right in.
I went to high school not far from here, and unless things have changed a lot, this is just the tip of the iceberg. I was muscular enough to be able to defend myself, I was lucky. This poor girl wasn’t.
Oh goodness, this is what I was afraid of.
This kid’s mother must be so proud.
This video is disturbing and disgusting. Makes me horrified at all involved!! I cried several times listening to the vile stuff coming out of his mouth and the kid that was filming and laughing is just as bad.
As an Ohio State Alumni and die-hard sports fan, it absolutely disgusts me that he is wearing an OSU shirt in this video. This is NOT the kind of trash that attends Ohio State or 99.9% of the student athletes that attend this great university. I keep reading that he is a scholarship student at OSU but cannot find him or anything related to his name on the athletic website. Furthermore, if he were a football player on the team, he would not have been in Steubenville in mid-August as the team reports in late July/Early August and does not leave campu during the season. Is he just a student with an acedemic based scholarship?? I just don’t want the Ohio State football teams name to be dragged into this unnecessarily.
He is not a football player, high school or college. He is on academic scholarship.
Thanks for the information!
To be fair, one kid, just one, spoke out against these disgusting, heinous comments. While I do not know who this individual is or his role in the events of that evening in August, his objections especially when everyone in the room seems to think “Nodi” is a comedic genius.
I applaud him for speaking out because he seems to be the only one who did.
Maybe the parents of punk felt the deep desire to make him sit on the “time out” bench instead of taking him to the wood shed on occassion. Let me tell you, there’s not much like the wood shed when it comes to dicipline. I know….unfortunately i had a spot reserved and so did my 3 children. Amazingly, it worked perfectly!!!
Michael Nodianos, good luck getting a job in the future. Nothing on the internet goes away.
Since these boys took nude photos of the young girl without her permission, and sent them over the internet, that might legally constitute child porn. We hope federal law enforcement will consider getting involved.
Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, 636-433-2511. [email protected],
“SNAP (The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests) is the world’s oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims. SNAP was founded in 1988 and has more than 12,000 members. Despite the word priest in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, teachers, Protestant ministers and increasingly, victims who were assaulted in a wide range of institutional settings like orphanages, summer camps, athletic programs, Boy Scouts, etc.”
I am having a hard time grasping everything that is going on in my town and on the internet. I actually think the doxing is getting out of hand. Let me say this, the boys involved are vile, and deserve everything they get, but going after the whole town is beyond me.
The whole town is helping to cover the tracks of these vile little pieces of shit. I say go after them.
You know the comments pissed me off.
However, I forgot to mention this and I feel I should…….
There is a rifle lying right beside him on the floor.
How incredibly stupid is that of the parents, etc. to allow a gun in a house around drunk kids?
Again, look on the floor.
Sniper gun, drunk kids, talking about rape…..
WOW!
Noticed the gun right way. We’re betting its a .22
THEY MAY HAD DONE THIS MORE THAN ONCE….HABIT….
ALL THE BOYS SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO PLAY OF
ANY FOOTBALL TEAM. THEY SHOULD ALL BE PUT IN JAIL…..
REAL MEN DO NOT RAPE WOMEN….SICK PATHETIC PEOPLE DO..
THEY SHOULD GET A POLICE RECORD…
That kid could really use some ‘Dexter’ style justice.
Thank you so much for bringing this to light. This video literally made me nauseated…But it had to be seen.
You and Anonymous have done SO much to help this girl (Although I have no doubt that it would still be in the dark today without your coverage.)
I am horrified by the video and by the boy’s disregard for another human life. It is a tragedy that only one young man spoke out… however, he should have done something.
FB page to get this guy’s scholarship revoked
http://www.facebook.com/pages/OSU-expel-Michael-Nodianos-Rape-Crew-member/538243282853465
Email address for OSU president: [email protected] I also have Nodianos email but I’m afraid if I emailed him I’d end up in jail for what I’d like to say to him.
Good to meet you Alexandria… on CNN
http://radionewz.net/2013/01/prinnie-rocks-it-on-cnn-steubenville-rape-case-goes-national/comment-page-1/#comment-12149
LOL Hi Judy! Thank you so much for all of your help. I’m working on what we talked about.
Yes, it was indeed nice to meet you! You are one Beautiful Lady!!! Thanks for all you do!!!
Steubenville rape case discussed in detail on Anderson Cooper 360 CNN..tonight… repeat at 10 tonight..your time, I think… we just caught the last ten minutes.. it is great.. Judy
They devoted a lot of time to it and again…HURRAY!! National attention on this case!
Did anyone here hear any of the sheriff’s radio appearance this morning? I’m wondering if anyone can comfirm the @KYAnonymous tweets or the quotes from Darkon at http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?38433-The-Steubenville-incident-v.-Anonymous&p=1356717. (the @KYAnonymous tweets are on the page prior, if you want to know what I’m talking about)
Hopefully a tape of this will find its way to the public. “Sunshine is the best disinfectant,” as a wise man recently said.
Did anyone else notice the girl who walked in the door near the end of the video? Where was her head?
IN MY OPINION that may have been J’s girlfriend.
FBI was tipped early on to that element to the case. The Cincy office to be exact. If I recall initial reports correctly the photos were possibly sent or texted via cell phone but not internet. Normally once the State, meaning BCI is assigned a case such as this then The Feds normally let them handle it. All that has come out publically so far is that the cell phones that were examined did not yield any additional persons to be charged and the one BCI person was quoted as stating the newer generation I phones are encrypted in such a way as to make data retrieval very difficult. I am just repeating what was stated and not whether I feel it is accurate in terms of the I Phones. And while it seems pretty clear that others were involved pert of the difficulty that police are facing is that reportedly the victim has no recall of the rape which means that prosecutors are left trying to build a case without the single most important person to help them. I was impressed early on with comments that Chief in Steubenville made and also that Sherrif Abdalla made and I am not ready to feel that they are anything but good decent cops that want justice for this victim. But they have a tall task when people do not come forward and when they have a victim who reportedly is almost unable to assist since it has been reported she does not recall the rape. It seems the prosecution will correctly focus on the fact that a passed out victim cannot give consent and that is true. My fear is that some of the real advocacy here for the victim has seen some “painting everyone with a broad brush” surface and important to realize that there are many good people in Steubenville and not every athlete or football player in town is evil. In fact there were some “townies” at the protest too so dont let all the GREAT work that has been done for this young victim fall by the wayside due to “painting everyone with a broad brush”. Yes I agree others were involved in this crime but when people are not coming forward and cops are left with a victim with no memory of events they have a tall task in regard to charging others unless people speak up. What brought many of us together was and should remain “advocacy” for this victim
There were A LOT of townies at the rally and they wore the mask to protect their identity. They fear repercussion for speaking out about this case — and myself and others were scared into silence with a defamation suit. I truly understand why they would hide their identity.
Wow. Am so glad people like you and the people at Anonymous helped uncover the truth in this case. Disgusting how the DA and School and Football Team covered everything up and tried to destroy evidence. I hope all that are truly guilty suffer and are sentenced appropriately and or disbarred/fired.
I fully undretsnd why people would wear a mask.The whole idea of the lawsuit in my opinion was to unmask people.
http://vimeo.com/56735949
CNN Anderson Cooper
It ABSOLUTELY was to unmask people and it scared people into silence. Heck, even I had to shut my trap. I’m still hesitant about some aspects of the case for fear of someone else suing me.
As one of the “John Does” I can relate. BTW just saw you on AC360 and rest assured tons of people did and people around the Country are talking. You started the awareness and then those dudes and ladies with the masks threw it into overdrive and no doubt that many many victims will benefit from a heighteneed awareness and future victims will be prevented and just maybe somebody next time does the right thing to stop it. Shes our sister, shes our daughter,shes our neighbor.
I saw me on there, too. I am glad that people are talking and that my blogs on this have raised awareness about this case and that there are other victims. I want to see those girls and women have the courage to come forward. Rape is NOT okay. EVER.
Please help with the following petitions; we need a civil rights investigation. Prinnie: You are doing an outstanding job! God Bless You. Thank you for your courage.
Petitions:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/assign-justice-department-team-investigate-civil-rights-violations-16-year-old-girl-allegedly-raped/3D6wXQDd or http://wh.gov/Udbq
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-all-involved-rape-steubenville-scandal-be-pushed-out-juvenile-court-so-there-can-be-real/MJ4rrCXM#thank-you=p
More than 20 yrs ago I trusted the wrong person, a person much older than I was, a person that Is no stranger to the little river towns. The short story is that I was raped by the man. I said no and knew that it didn’t matter - his eyes burned a fear in me that was paralyzing and he was so strong. He bit me repeatedly, my shoulders, chest & arms and while I begged him to stop, he uttered words that I will never forget, “pain is good”. As he walked away he said, “I knew you would be good”. It took me years to understand that a rapist is gratified with the victims terror. For weeks I watched the bruises (indentations of his teeth) that were branded into my skin turn colors until they faded away. I blamed myself for having bad judgement, I felt shame for my family to ever know, and because of who he was I felt certain that telling authorities would be pointless. That I would ultimately feel worse. All of these years Later I still remember clearly the pain he inflicted on me. Upside there are many days when I don’t think about it and when I do it’s usually because I see his disgusting face in the area. I was told not so long ago to forgive him and that would be helpful to me. Well, I’m not feeling it, after all of these years I don’t forgive him. On my worst days I tell myself that one day he will die a natural death and the world will be just a little bit better of a place. Backing a girl or woman into a corner to assault them is the act of a beast not a man. Keep forging a head for the victim, she has the world standing behind her. And maybe as justice reveals itself the attitudes some have about woman and rape will mature and change. As for the beast, if you figure out who I am, don’t approach me, I’m not a kid anymore. Thank you Prinnie & Knight Sec I hope you to read this. The attitude towards women has existed for years & unfortunately has set an example for the young men.
Adult crimes, adult court.
This is all so appalling.
I hope the young people of Steubenville, the teens that might have seen something at one of those parties or those who might have posted something thoughtlessly online, I hope they realize that it’s not too late to do the right thing. I think we should encourage that they can still do something to help bring all of the facts to the surface, to help start the healing for a girl who is surviving this brutal event and for the entire town of Steubenville:
It’s not too late to come forward and share what you know. Speaking up should not be feared and telling the truth is not something you should be afraid of. Speaking up takes courage and coming forward takes strength, even if you posted pictures or cruel words, you can still make a difference.
I have to keep this hope every time I start thinking about this case and my anger boils. In December a young Indian woman died after being beaten and gang raped. I watched her country’s rage in response to this crime and demand changes to the way rape and sexual assault against women are viewed and handled in the justice system. Yet from news articles, blogs and interviews, it appears that some people in this town are content with hiding, blocking communication in a public sphere and discouraging others from coming forward. While India roars, the apparent silence of Steubenville is deafening.
People can still lead the way. Speak up.
[...] repeatedly raped by two football players. Instead of reporting the rape, other young people created video joking about the rape, tweeted about it, and even posted pictures of two teenage boys holding the girl who is limp, and [...]
Women do not come forward because “she wanted it” is an acceptable excuse. The Congress wont renew the Violence Against Women Act and have created more laws against women’s rights than any other time since women did not have any rights. The justification that the coaches and people of authority are using is repulsive. There should be a law against “voyeuring a crime” and not helping. You get arrested for hiding a camera in a toilet and looking at people, peeping through windows, stalking, why not get arrested for taking photos and videos of a crime occurring and not calling police or helping the victim to only spread it via social media. Spreading it is as bad as the person who committed it. That person just watched, how barbaric. Its a crime of humanity and only shows how children are being raised to believe that standing up for someone is ratting someone out. Your only a rat if you participate and its obvious so many did participated by watching. I hope that Karma rears her ugly head and takes care of those who think they can hide their little secret. We know what you did last summer.
This is really sad to watch. May God be with this young lady in her time of need. I also pray for those young men, whose faces are all over the internet now and forever; their lives are ruined in the court of public opinion, which is much worse than any sentence a judge and jury could charge. If I lived in this small town, those young men would never be welcomed anywhere near me or my family as I would never want to be labeled associating with people who show such lack of regard for human dignity and life. So, I guess going forward there’s a learning curve for all of us parents who watched this video. We need to teach our daughters to be aware of potential situations like this and how to respond and for our sons, how to respect women and not see them as sexual objects. While I was watching this video; I thought about how horrible this is for everyone involved; to think that my daughter could have been the victim and I have a son about the age of those in the video. I think this video is going to be a learning tool later and a source of open discussion after school.
he should be castrated
I hope these lil bastards are convicted and thrown into prision and gang raped by their cellmates every waking moment. Because that is what they deserve! Their parents should also be held responsible for their actions. In the light of this video, the coach, High school and football team should all suffer for the actions by these young men. OSU should take back the scholarship and no other college should take him or anyone involved. Such disregard for human life. Watching the lil jackass play with hisself while hes talking about it was sick. I’m sure they will get theirs one way or another especially after this video. Hoping and praying that they get what they deserve. Only demented idiots would record it.
Cricket, I am so sorry that you too, suffer from being sexually abused. I hope you know now, that it was NOT your fault.
We recommend that you file a report with the police, you do not deserve to live in fear of him.
Also, keep in mind that child predators rarely have only one victim, and they do not sit down one day and decide to stop. They can never be around kids, ever.
On this link, is a terrific person who has helped me so much, and her book is a must read. ” Miss America by Day”.. here is link and watch her interview.
http://www.missamericabyday.com/
Thank you for sharing,
Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, 636-433-2511
our local snap web site.. http://www.steubenvilletruth.org/
Cricket, I’m so sorry for you and what you had to endure. Maybe telling your story will encourage others to come forward. You are very brave. We are seeking justice for our little girl from August but for you and other victims as well. Take care of yourself and stay strong.
You can hear that other boy in the room who tries to say what had happened was wrong. You can hear him tell that Nodi kid he was “messed up” and “should listen to himself speak”. I think he’s the only who asked Nodi what if that was his daughter being humiliated. There was a sliver of humanity there that night. It just wasn’t enough. :’(
He is still a wimp.
Whining in the background is not action.
Whining helplessly=wimp.
Now, had he gone onto to kick some ass and actually rescue the girl……
Now why can’t one of these gun toting maniacs go after these kinds of people instead of little kids? I just don’t get it…
The only way to see that these monsters get what they deserve is to DEMAND that they be tried as adults , and will be required to register as sex offenders. Coaches and other school officials MUST be fired . . . none of this ” suspended with pay ” B.S. Further, those who have scholarships MUST have their scholarship revoked and be EXPELLED immedieately.
I can only wonder how this “judge” Lipps can allow this to be concidered a juevinile offense . I wonder what color of Lexus they promised him.
Federal Grand Juries are made for situations just like this as opposed to investigating marijuana transactions. With the election over, AG Holder has no reason not to order one to be convened in Cincinnati to take take testimony on the multitude of crimes alleged to have been committed as well as the crimes commited in the coverup.
That sounds Ike a fabulous idea. Now, if it could only happen.
Steubenville on CNN Anderson Cooper again tonight…
Judy
I heard about this story on KFI AM640 radio here in Los Angeles and followed the stories to your website. You are doing an amazing job at uncovering the truth. As a former Buckeye with a son currently at Ohio State, I join the poster above in being sickened that this punk is wearing an OSU T-shirt. I’m wondering if the Ohio State Lantern is following this story, I’m going to check. This Nodianos punk should be outed and shunned at OSU. Keep up the good work.
I can’t believe there aren’t thousands of comments on this post. I was so incredibly angry when I heard about this story, I could hardly contain myself. WTF is wrong with these kids?! And his buddies laughing about it is equally as disturbing. It makes me as angry as when I unwittingly went to an open mic comedy night and was so enraged I had to write about it (if you feel like reading it): http://www.bclef.com/2011/04/just-suggestion-to-any-potential.html You’re my hero for investigating this story and bringing so much to light. Really, thank you.
Thank you, Bonnie.
Agreed. Great job sticking by your guns and making everyone aware of this horrendous attack. I hope they all get what’s coming to them; The coaches involved, the parents, the students laughing in the background…ALL of them need to be punished HARSHLY for this. I applaud your efforts and bravery to see this through to the end. Sic em girl.
This is an example of the bystander effect. I think that if more people knew about it then maybe events such as this one would occur less.
When I listened it made me physically sick. Then to say things like she’s as dead as Kaylee Anthony and Nicole Simpson…this person must have the mindset of a person like Charlie Manson. Then to say basically he wouldn’t do anything even if it was his daughter, well I can only hope that the good Lord never allows him to experience the miracle of becomming a parent
The things he said are vicious and thoughtless. I honestly do feel terribly for his family. I can’t imagine having to live with this shame.
Well, this is interesting… the Steubenville Herald is picking up the India rape case…http://www.hsconnect.com/page/content.detail/id/277788/India-gang-rape-victim-s-friend-recounts-attack-.html?isap=1&nav=5030
But the picture “is out of context,” Madison said. “That young lady is not unconscious,” as has been widely reported.
I’m no expert, but unpixelated — she is NOT conscious. Her head is all the way back. No one purposely holds their head the way it was in the photo.
THOSE KIDS AND THE ADULTS HIDING THEM IN STEUBENVILLE ARE JUST THE LATEST ABOMINATION. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE NOW. We need to get experts together and set up a curriculum that teaches ethics and manners in the schools starting in Kindergarten and continuing through Seniors in High School. We have an emergency in Jefferson County. Perhaps, Bill Gates and/or Warren Buffet could provide the seed money. People should learn basic manners and ethics. We know from the “60 Minutes” segment that children make value judgments as young as 2 months old. Parenting is inconsistent and religion is not allowed in the school, but basic manners and good judgment need to be taught now.
We did it to the lawyers. Let’s start with ethics and manners with the children now. Let the ACLU sue. Did you see those boys in that Steubenville video. We don’t have time to argue about religion. We need non- partisan action now.
Attorney for Trent Mays revealed on CNN that the day after the rape the victim allegedly sent a text to Trent Mays allegedly stating: “I know you didnt rape me”. Attorney for Malik Richmond also confirmed this evidence, the text message, exists and all parties close to the case are aware of it. Let me make my opinion clear,zero doubt that victim was sexually assaulted and raped, but as sad and hard as it is to think about, it is possible that defense can raise sufficient “reasonable doubt” and while that does not mean “innocent” it would be sad but really this entire case seems to hinge on what the victims state of awareness was. Victim can always sue in civil court wher the burden is lighter but as much as I believe the Defendents to be guilty I can see skilled defense creating perhaps sufficient “reasonable doubt” and that text message revealed tonite on CNN is a blow to the prosecution. Let me make it clear: I feel in my opinion victim was raped but if presiding Judge is true to his oath and truly rules based only on the evidence presented in trial and the burden being “beyond any reasonable doubt”, it is possible they could walk, sad but its possible. Not an easy case for Prosecutors since they are arguing a rape case that rests on the victims state of awareness. My belief is not wavering in my opinion victim was raped but there is ample room for skilled defense lawyers. Sadly.
Subpoena all the phone companies and let the texts, timestamps of the texts and the few students who WILL do the right thing come forward. I mean for all we know if she DID write this to Mays there might have been a question mark after the comment?
And now the young woman is receiving death threats? Insane. Insane.
Keep up the good work Anonymous. Maybe you can figure out who is threatening them.
So are the coaches and other students. Anonymous might b peaceful but it’s clear not everyone is.
Good point you make as to that text message could also have been “taken out of context” as you point out. Its not an easy case for the prosecutors and note that my opinion is not wavering as to my belief that rape occured. But lets face it the Defendents are going to state that they remember everything clearly and victim as alleged in CNN news reports does not recall anything about the rape or sexual assault. So as impassioned as we all are, myself included, can you imagine trying to prosecute this case to a verdict “beyond any reasonable doubt”? Sad
I find it hard to believe some involved parties weren’t messaging her trying to cover their butts. IF she sent it perhaps it was her wanting to believe he didn’t or wouldn’t violate her. Not being able to remember anything would have to be intimidating. Actually the Nodi video contains a lot of info., if you can stand to watch it more than once.
Cricket you make good pints and I can tell you since I saw it with my own eyes on Twitter that yes one of the Defendents definately tweeted the victim and if I reacll correctly it made me think the same thing that there was some attempt to cover his tracks with her and you also may be correct that she may have been replying to that. I dont feel that the text message she sent allegedly to Trant Mays is in question just since I dont think two lawyers would state that on CNN when they are involved in the case directly. What happened to this victim is disgusting. I just hope they can prove it.
All I know is we have GOT to stop letting these crimes and the perpetrators of them go unpunished. I mean even if they are somehow found innocent…They should have it follow them around - Forever. I’m still sick to death over the case involving David Cash Jr. google that one. He’s walking around without a care in the world now days…and for Sherrice’s family. The “prove it” details of this Stuebenville attack is eerily similar to this one.
http://youtu.be/KqTdXOQmXrc Part 1
http://youtu.be/xJeAOcC7c6M Part 2
Well her attorney also said he knows of the message but he didn’t really seem too concerned with it. Let’s remember, the girl didn’t even know she was raped until she saw what was being said on line on Twitter, Instagram and FB. Do we know for sure she wasn’t being told at school that her BF raped her at the party and she text him about it where he denies it saying something like you know I wouldn’t do that to you etc and her reply was, I know you didn’t rape me. Just a thought!
EXACTLY and things can be taken out of context. Look at the context in which comments on this very blog were being used to make a claim of defamation of character suit.
Hello, all, from Wisconsin. I too only recently heard about this. I have been reading as much as I can find about it. I’m a former cop. I came upon and stopped the rape-in-progress of a 17 year-old girly in my small village several years ago. Knowing how that still affects me, I can not imagine how these victims are scarred. I started watching the video at the top of this thread but, a minute or so in, I just couldn’t watch any more. I seriously thought about driving to Steubenville for today’s event. Just know that my spirit is with all of you, especially the victim. I did write a letter to President Obama asking that the DOJ/FBI get involved. I know it’s a futile effort, but it’s something.
Elliot and BooBoo both raise great points. I have seen enough cases prosectured first-hand that I know the prosecution has their work cut out for them. I actually tip my cap to Attorney Madison for his conduct and trying to let the system work. This case is going to stand on the evidence from social media. The “I know you didn’t rape me” text will not be a major obstacle to overcome. An unconscious victim would have no way of making such a statement with any certainty.
I hope and pray that those “good” students of Steubenville will continue to come forward and cooperate with the prosecution. I also hope and pray that more charges will be forthcoming. Finally, I hope and pray that the school board witll do their job and take strong and decisive disciplinary action against all involved. Most all schools have a code of conduct and violations - even outside of school activities - can and MUST be sanctioned in the strongest of terms.
Keep the faith, people of Steubenville! The world really IS watching.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupysteubenville#
You can watch with those of us who can’t attend. Thank you for your comment. It took me almost an hour to finish the video.
I do have a few more thoughts…The ROLLREDROLL football page boasts “Ohio’s First Dynasty.” The first definition of “dynasty” on dicitionary.com is “a sequence of rulers from the same family, stock, or group: the Ming dynasty.” Therein lies the problem. Some obviously see sports and their supporters as dynastic, or rulers. They inherently set the rules, and no one has the right to question or challenge those folks. This is why I have little faith in your local officials to set things right. I’m hopeful that the state can, but I’m not convinced at this point. It seems to me that the only way to truly change Steubenville is for the feds to get involved and investigate the allegations of corruption. I’m no expert on the RICO statutes, but it seems that the DOJ/FBI could begin the investigation based on the deprivation of the girl’s civil rights. That could then open the door to a wider net.
My second thought is related to the owner of a furniture and appliance store who was quoted on CNN. I agree that we should not paint all of Steubenville - or all of the school or all of the athletes - with a broad brush. Yet, I would ask that gentleman what he is doing to show the world that the “bad” are a minority in your town. Has he started a fund to assist the victim with the years of counseling that she is sure to need? Has he started a petition or letter-writing campaign to the federal or state justice officials to investigate the allegations of corruption? Has he stood up at a school board meeting to demand that ALL who were involved be investigated and at least disciplined by the school?
Actions speak louder than words. The good people of Steubenville, unfortunately, now need to stand up and show that goodness. Standing by and painting themselves as the victims might be compared to those who stood by watching and taking pictures/videos during the crimes in question. You’re either part of the problem or part of the solution.
concerned in WI, you make some excellent points and I believe you have offered a valid and honorable challenge to the good people of that area — and I know there are good people there, as there are good people in every city/town. Perhaps some of your suggestions will be embraced and an honest effort to help the victim and her family will be made. Someone must take the first step to begin the healing process for this girl, her family, and the good people of that community. There is strength in numbers.
Wisco - I was really struck by the comments from the store owner as well. He seemed more concerned about the town’s reputation than anything else …. the victim, justice, standing up for what is right, etc. He could have used that air time to express concern for the town, acknowledge that its reputation rests solidly on the shoulders of the perpetrators, bystanders and involved adults, and encourage them to come forward. In the end, he just came off as a pompous clown.
Another thing that struck me in that segment was the bullying expert’s thoughts on why children don’t come forward with information in these situations - because they don’t trust that the adults around them will be supportive and protect them from fallout with their peers. I think that hit the nail squarely on the head - football is so important in this town that no one has the power to challenge the culture and if they try, they pay a hefty price.
So my apologies, Mr. Store Owner …your town is rotten. It created and nurtured this culture in exchange for notoriety and economic gain, and everyone has stood idly by in the meantime, including parents, adults and educators that are responsible for raising children into decent, caring, honest human beings. Steubenville has failed them, all in the name of football.
Gross.
Keep up the good work.
If you were a teenage girl who knows she was raped, wouldn’t you send a message to your boyfriend saying, “I know you didn’t rape me”, desperately wanting to believe he didn’t take part in it. She is a teenager in love, believing he loved her. She never said that she wasn’t raped. She has been betrayed by everybody. How sad.
Cole testified at the prelim in October that they had the pass code to her phone. Assuming the text claim is legit, it won’t stand up to cross. End of problem.
You, my dear, deserve to be commended!
Thank you, Brandon.
If it was my daughter there would all ready have been a prairie oyster party with the “lil Red Riding Hood” football teams BIG YELLOW cowards providing the oysters. It appears to be a corrupt lil town where only outside prosecutors and investigators will make a difference. The respect shown young women is closer to Afghanistan than America. The snivling OSU student should be castrated as he is unfit to be a parent ever. Any girl he dates should have to watch his performance repeatedly before going on a date. That should narrow his dating pool significantly. He should never have a daughter or son. If I was his father, I would disown him.
Steubenville. Home of the Coward. How embarrassing that not one other person had the integrity to stand up for this girl. Not a single good Samaritan in that crowd. Is it the water that creates sociopaths? What an embarrassment of a town. Big Red….in embarrassment
Cyberbullying is a crime. It occurs when someone uses mobile technologies or the Web to deliberately embarrass, harass or hurt someone else. Michael Nodianos must go to jail, and he is over 18 years old. not a juvenile.
WTOV9.com showed interviews with the sheriff stating, that it’s not the real Anon doing this, then he made threats to an individual, stating” I’m coming after you, I know where you live, your mom lives…”. For what? Bringing light to a case that would have been swept under the rug? Just goes to show how they do things around there. Another interview the cop in charge of the investigation was asked if what the guy in the video was doing was a crime? The cop says ” That’s not for me to decide”…What, you’re a cop and you don’t know what is against the law. Lawyer for the defendants saying they won’t get a fair trial because of media and internet coverage. Well good, get a change of venue, because that poor young girl won’t get a fair trial in that county.
loyaljustice: You have hit on a common misconception. Police do not issue criminal charges. They can hold someone on suspicion, but the actual criminal charges are issued by the prosecutor. Chief McCafferty was exactly right.
On my earlier points, I am providing a link to the Ohio Attorney General’s Victim Services web page. The Jefferson County Prosecutor’s office probably has a victim/witness coordinator, but in this situation I am sure a lot of people are (rightfully?) hesitant to turn there. So hopefully the store owner I spoke of earlier will set about working with the AG’s office to establish a support system for the victim. Better yet, if Mr. Saltsman is genuinely remorseful-as his lawyerly statement indicates- perhaps HE can initiate a support system for her.
http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Individuals-and-Families/Victims
Concerned: The chief was asked if it was a crime, I’m pretty sure he should know what a “crime” is, why they are arresting someone. Otherwise, they can “hold/arrest” someone for breathing. But all that is apples and oranges.
Like many others above, I am new to this story. Since reading an article on NYmag.com two days ago, I have been devouring every bit of information I can find about this case. To be honest, I never heard of this town until now, and its a shame that they will now be known as the place where that horrendous gang rape occurred. I am sure that there are many wonderful people there who don’t deserve that.
I have never been comfortable with anonymous internet vigilantes, but I have to applaud Anonymous and KnightSec in this instance. And of course this website is the catalyst of it all…*standing ovation*.
Now that the world is watching, I hope the state of Ohio finally starts turning those wheels, and everyone involved is brought to the justice they deserve. (As an aside, those two boys being tried as juveniles is ridiculous. They are old enough to know that what they did is outrageously wrong. They would definitely be tried as adults here, and would be in jail, not at home. Even in this liberal state.).
For the sociopath in the video, I have nothing to add that hasn’t already been said. I just feel for his mother…she must be destroyed over this. Where do you even go after your son is shown to the world in this way? I have boys, and I can’t imagine how she must be feeling.
Most of all, I hope that the victim is able to move on to a happy and successful life. As a survivor, I know it is possible - with a lot of help. She has a long road ahead of her…I hope she knows that there are many people out here who wish her well, and that we stand with her in spirit.
I have said from the beginning that from the moment these boys stepped over that line - from that moment on Steubenville was going to forever be “that town”; their school would forever be “that school”; and their families would be known for “that boy”. They caused so much grief and shame in their decisions that night.
Just my opinion, but if everyone would have done their job properly and thoroughly from the begining, then this incident would not have blown up to be as big as it is. The ball was dropped from the begining, kids that should be accountable for their actions were given immunity for thier testimony….No the world is watching and not only will justice be served for this victim, but your skeletons will be brought out of those closets that have been locked for so many years….
Mays’ attorney is now alleging that a letter was sent to the others that if they testify against the two defendants they would not be prosecuted. Wasn’t it reported that they were given immunity? AG’s office is emphatically denying immunity. This is going to get interesting.
All very true - it’s a disaster from start to finish. But Prinnie, what about those families…what burden to they share in this? (Those boys didn’t decide that rape is ok on their own.) Is the community supporting them or are they being ostracized?
Outraged….These kid in this town whether it is not bein raised right or something else, I can tell you this much. I’ve seen a lot of the kids in this town grow up and I see what they say to each other and what they write on their Facebook pages…I see them liking and idolizing gangsters and people that promote violence. Most of them thing the kingpin that founded the “Crip” and “Gangster Disciples” gangs are the greatest people in the world. I’ve seen some of these kids state on their FB pages they go to school in the streets and their profession is dealing drugs and getting money. Society has changed greatly, however, parents and teachers have not addressed the issues at hand….Most of these kids are growning up believing it i ok to treet people that way and abuse woman and fight and steal and rob to gain any respect….the worst part of it all is they are in schools and homes and no adult ou there is telling them it is wrong!
@Pete: agree 110% and I hope you are right.
To East Coast: if the liberal state you are in is New Jersey, then I have to disagree. With respect of course. As a ‘target’ (I am not comfortable when the word victim is used about me and I certainly do not feel like a survivor) I can tell you that a liberal state such as New Jersey well … has the same issues. Maybe worse if that is possible. I keep saying over and over for the last days of watching this story unfold that Steubenville = Montclair/Little Falls. To a sad, sad ‘t’ it does.
I am so very heartbroken for the girl and her family. My life is ruined. Destroyed. But I am an adult and at the least I had more years before my worldview was obliterated. I hope very much that justice is served for her and she can heal somehow. I am sickened as you all are by the whole lot of the criminals here. Criminals by anyone’s definition. This blog and Anon - heros.
What I don’t like to see in the media or public opinion is an averance that Steubenville has this problem for any reason other than as a culture we’ve moved away from caring. Which can lead to corruption. Which can lead to the ‘target’ of a horrendous crime or any crime - up for the battle of their lives if they want justice. I am relieved to have heard today mutterings that this is not unique to Steubenville. Corruption can happen anywhere. No matter the financial class or any other factor. It’s a dark side, the underbelly, of humanity - and until it reaches our own doorsteps, or is radically pressed into our sights - we ignore it. That’s a change that needs to happen. Montclair is an affluent town and both Montclair and Little Falls are in highly populated areas - not isolated geographically. Yet when I read the details about Steubenville - all I see are the similarities. From the restaurant where the law and cronies meet to school board members related to cops who are tied to attorney’s etc - up to judges who don’t do their jobs. It goes on and on up the ladder as a target, victim, survivor - clings to hope for justice until strength is drained away. I could go on. In Montclair, the words ‘my [brother, cousin, friend, whatever] is a cop, so you better be careful!’ are spoken over and over. I never knew what that meant. Now I know. I think corruption comes from being unchecked - too many people get a favor and another and heads grow bigger and cronies do favors and it just goes on and on. Filth like any man who attacks a woman in any way - they smell this out and use it to their advantage. What you get is a Steubenville like we are all watching now.
I agree with everything else said. Totally. It’s a fine day today to see so many people want a change, and justice and just what we all expect from a civilized society like we call ourselves. In my situation and now this one and so many more too - it’s hopefully going to open people’s eyes to the fact that we take laws and systems for granted. We think that what we see on t.v. or expect of our systems is true until we or someone we love are in it and the startling, painful reality is that’s just not so. In my situation, normal people are simply broken watching the system shut down and turn out to be an emperor with not knew suit. Liberal state or not.
Peace.
Kellen, NJ is certainly not exempt from crime and corruption. My intent was not to cast stones at the whole of Steubenville. Perhaps I was unclear, but I feel sympathy for the town…this notoriety was brought by a few, but is being cast on the whole. It is very easy to sit behind a computer and pass judgement on a whole town, but my outrage is directed only to those directly involved in the crime and cover-up.
That said, I am confused by your post, as I don’t know your backstory. Since I am so new to this particular story, it has been impossible to keep track of so many people who have been posting. ( I have been reading across several blogs. ) In any case, I guess that it is fair to say that there is a certain amount of hypocrisy in the shock many of us are feeling. Steubenville is certainly not the first time something like this has happened, and I don’t believe that anyone has made the assertion that it is unique in that respect. However, as far as I know, Steubenville is the first time we have seen a crime such as this documented on social media sites, in real time, and in such a gleeful and celebratory way. The tweets and facebook messages are there for all to see. Couple that with the Nordiamos video and it is a deeply troubling picture.
It can be viewed through the lens of a breakdown of American society at large and the rise of rape culture, or it can be viewed more narrowly as a commentary on the adults in charge of the Steubenville football program, the parents of those boys and the leadership of the town and Jefferson County. Either way, it doesn’t change what happened to that girl, and the fact that not one person at any of those parties thought to call 911 and report it, or even step in to put a stop to it. There are many, many witnesses to this crime. Now they have these Anonymous groups working on it, retrieving data that the police couldn’t…it’s just something many of us have never seen before. I see your connection to Montclair, but the social media evidence is entirely new to me.
Just a thought…did you think I was agreeing with Pete Basil’s 2nd post about the kids not being raised right? It looks like that in my reply to him. But I was actually agreeing with his first reply to me, whe he said justice will be served, and I truly hope he is right. I think I may have hit reply to the wrong comment. In any case, I don’t know how all the kids in Steubenville are being raised, and I couldn’t begin to comment on that. There are bad seeds everywhere.
This just in: http://i.imgur.com/CSydE.jpg
It’s all good East Coast. The liberal state reference was what made me trigger, and comment. I getcha and I totally agree with what you are saying too. So long as there is discussion, and eyes open now - I guess there is hope for change out in our society. On so many levels. So, again - it’s all good.
Your other points - agreed. And most certainly the social media and witnesses as part of the problem - they all apply to what happened to me too. All of it. But I think you actually put it better so far as saying (to paraphrase) - it’s best to not get too caught up in the different ways matters like this happen so that the big scope of issues is not overlooked. I am afraid I won’t say this ‘right’ but I’ll try. Bottom line - you have valid points in all. It’s just dangerous (to me, and my humble opinion only) when we see things in too tight an iris or apeture? (I still am not sure i am saying this right). To not be too cryptic some more - what I lived, live also has the online mocking and the same elements of watching and not reporting a crime. Participating by looking on, etc. I suppose that said, I am triggered myself and trying to make a sensible comment regardless.
I’ve lived this now. Many, many witnesses have watched. We are normal, sane, average law-abiding people. We, I - did not believe a situation in total like you are watching spotlighted by Steubenville now - can happen. The crime itself is so horrible to have happen to a human - and the behaviors of others who could have stepped in before, during and after - I guess until it happens it’s hard to believe it could be true. I know it stunned my ‘people’ for sure. To be ‘heard’ in these situations - is nearly impossible.
The crime itself - it blows you out of the water. It’s soul-decimating stuff. But from the moment ‘after’ going forward - the rest she, I, and I am certain so many others go through in an environment like Steubenville, and where I am from, makes it so much worse. From the moment of the malicious crime right through the system and the mechanisms that lock up, shut down. On moral levels by bystanders right up through the system that is supposed to keep order and provide justice.
To me, it’s a problem with violence in general. Violence against women. Violence in general. In our own country. We as a collective, we presume we are better than that. That we are more civilized. I disagree. Next, the culture of corruption. It grows like a seed, into a big ugly tree of injustice.
I bet not too many people out there knew this could happen. You are not alone. Before my horror - I didn’t know either. Never heard of it. Would have thought all these details, each and every one - were the stuff fiction was about. It’s so sureal to live. It does not seem possible The crime itself. People watching. Posting about it as funny. Cops invovled. Lawyers. Once you beg and plead for help - from the correct sources - the frustration. The dehumanizing. It doesn’t seem possible that it could be so. But it very much is.
All the levels of horror about this story. Absolutely most importantly - the horror that girl lived through, lives through still. It’s just that I am living it. Each and every element. As are the people that love me. As are the people that try and fight our way through what this blog and anonymous folks just did. Now we know. It’s a small comfort albeit a large trigger - to at least have people out there know this can happen. All of it.
I’m truly sorry if I am not clarifying right. You’re not wrong, I just worried when I hit the comment key - people would be under the impression they are safe from this kind of thing and in their state it would go differently. I’d hate to ever have anyone else have to live through any of this. It’s almost un-survivable.
Again, peace.
This Steubenville rape is so horrific, and the video is despicable.
Many girls have been sexually abused within the Ohio Valley, and the silence is frightening. I am hoping that these victims feel that it was not their fault, and they are not alone. I know of many.
I also want to say, that many BOYS have been victims of child sex abuse and rape..and I know of many.. They are very scared to speak up, they feel it was their fault. they feel they will not be believed… BUT it was not their fault, Their abuse also needs to be exposed.
We are here for all victims of child sex abuse, and I for one, will never stop believing the victims and helping to expose the truth.. There is way too much at stake.. OUR INNOCENT KIDS TODAY..
Sex abuse is about abuse of POWER… These who abuse their power need to be kicked off their pedestals.. This is not a healthy place for anyone to be.
Ohio Valley, be an example of truth, justice, and protecting kids today.. We are with you all the way.
Keep this in mind. silence is not an option anymore.
Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, 636-433-2511. [email protected],
“SNAP (The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests) is the world’s oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims. SNAP was founded in 1988 and has more than 12,000 members. Despite the word priest in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, teachers, Protestant ministers and increasingly, victims who were assaulted in a wide range of institutional settings like orphanages, summer camps, athletic programs, Boy Scouts, etc.”
Kellen, I don’t know you or what happened but it breaks my heart to see you write that you are “ruined and destroyed” Just by the fact that you are able to write so articulately and show real concern for this JaneDoe andthe problems in Steub. Oh, you are not ruined. I don’t know what else to say in this short space but to say that you are loved and appreciated and have much to offer. Whether you believe in God or not, I pray you find the strength to carry on and keep moving forward. Peace be with you
Just watched Prinnie & her attorney on CNN. She was fantastic, as usual!! Everyone must watch this episode. The host shot Walter Madison (attorney for Richmond) DOWN!!!! He said the video ((nodi laughing) shouldn’t be out there on social media -she said kinda sarcastically “Sorry Mr. Madison, but it is out there. Thank you!” LMAO They had a legal anaylist who had alot to say, especially about Madison saying the picture of victim being “staged” & taken out of context. The whole coverage was great, everyone should try to catch it online.
I don’t have CNN on my TV, would you know the name of the host, or special segment, so I can look it up?
They usually post them online and I will post a link when it’s up. People usually tweet me the links before I find them. LOL
Yep…you can’t unring a bell. I want to see Mr. Madison’s segment. I could only hear it in my earpiece, but I couldn’t see. I had them turn off my monitor. LOL
Our society and what is socially acceptable is the cause for these kinds of crimes rising. Shows like Jerry Springer, Two and a Half Men, Jersey Shore, and Victoria’s Secret fashion show on prime time. Sex sells, and alcohol is a legal drug. Although something like this case affects me to my core and breaks my heart, it doesn’t surprise me. America is supposed to have the best judicial system in the world, ha, I scoff at that. The Violence Against Women Act was allowed to expire. Just the other day a California judge overturned a rape conviction because the woman that was raped wasn’t married. Parents that were supposed to have “supervised visits” with their baby girl, AT a Social Services center, were left ALONE with her to raped her and videoed the crime. The Center was NOT CHARGED. WHY? When children and babies are “Raped”, our judicial system calls it molested, or sexual assault, why is that? Is rape a dirty word? Why are the guilty called registered ‘sex offenders”, instead of registered “rapists, or baby rapers”? In this country, our judicial system gives harsher sentences to people who abuse animals than to rapists. The american judicial system Doesn’t Care about our children, or people, who have been raped or abused.
It’s very hard to imagine there is any hope for the future of humanity. Then today, seeing and hearing all the people at the rally, and the empathy and compassion that they and people here and in other social networks show makes me think that maybe someday that sort of kindness and compassion will become the “norm”, more socially acceptable way of thinking, instead of the way it is now. I hope the drop of water in this bucket becomes a raging river, and eventually an abundant ocean. For the sake of our future children.
My hope for this case is that there is a change of venue, so that Jane Doe has a fair trial, and that witnesses at the parties be subpenaed, and forced to testify, or held in contempt of court. Perhaps some of the witnesses to this crime that were taught good morals will decide to do the right thing.
Prinnie, You did a wonderful interview on CNN! Why don’t you run for The Sheriff of Jefferson County? I bet you would win!!!! Thanks for all you do! You are my HERO!!!
THanks maddgramma. You keep in touch! I meant it when I said I truly cared about all of my John Does here. I was honestly more worried about my commenters than myself being sued. Glad it’s over.
I am not going anywhere my friend!!!! I am glad it’s over too!
Went to CNN.com and it was last updated at 10:01pm so your episode hasn’t been put up yet. There are at least 5 segments on about the case and over 1800 comments!! And they called you “Crazy” back in August!!! Prinnie, you are Everyones Hero!!!!!!!
Prinnie, I attended the rally sat. in Steubenville. I’m very pleased to say that it was very well organized and peaceful. I was kind of worried that it would be alot of young kids and roudy. Not the case. My generation (50′s) and older was well represented!! In fact the most angry and Vocal were the older Men in the crowd. This case has touched alot of people and made parents sit up and take notice!
I hope you know what you started back in August and have continued to talk about made all this happen. I sincerely thank you for all you’ve done and put up with.
I saw it and made notes so that if I ever get caught speeding by one of those cameras I can claim the photo was taken “out of context”
I am still having a hard time understanding why this jerk is not charged with anything. It scares me that one of the colleges my daughter was considering was Ohio State. Thank God she chose another school. She would have been on the same campus as this sociopath.